Maenander Germany. September 07 2011 18:35. Posts 2680 PM Profile Quote #
No chance against Losira.
Quod erat expectandum.
예고된 일이지니. Losira를 이길 리가 없으니.
densha United States. September 07 2011 18:35. Posts 462 PM Profile Quote #
Anyone have a reason why Protosses don't just turtle to 200/200 against Zerg? Zergs have the standard two-base Protoss builds figured out to the point that an early third hatch is now standard. You're just not going to hurt a Zerg with any two base attack when he's on three bases.
왜 요즘 토스들은 그냥 수비만 하면서 200 안모아? 공격 간게 바보짓.
Fig United States. September 07 2011 18:35. Posts 331 PM Profile Quote #
The sad part is that map was the most favorable for MC, at 57% win rate for zerg. Since the next two he plays on have 100% and 75% winrates for zerg in ZvP.
이 맵에서 저그의 토스전 승률이 57%밖에 안됬는데 장민철이 져버렸네. 다른 맵들은 더 안좋은데. (??? 외국 전적 포함임? 저그 승률이 저렇게 낮은 맵도 있음?)
On September 07 2011 18:34 darkness wrote:
Since balance whining is forbidden, I wanna ask you one question:
Is there even ONE protoss in GSL that does well *consistently*?
2 gsl championships is pretty consistent, but the last month is the opposite lol
"징징거리면 계정 정지 당하니까 하나만 물어봅시다,
토스가 "꾸준히 잘한' GSL 한번이라도 있었나요?"
- 2번이나 우승 한게 꾸준히 잘한 게 아니고 뭐임? 지난달에는 토스가 안좋았지만.
On September 07 2011 18:30 Hall0wed wrote:
Why do Protoss players keep going early Stargate against Zerg, It really isn't good outside of an all-in.
토스들 왜 우주관문 일찍 가냐 ㅉㅉ 올인 아니면 소용 없는데
Ruscour Australia. September 07 2011 18:36. Posts 1459 PM Profile Quote #
On September 07 2011 18:33 Salteador Neo wrote:
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On September 07 2011 18:32 Ruscour wrote:
On September 07 2011 18:30 Hall0wed wrote:
Why do Protoss players keep going early Stargate against Zerg, It really isn't good outside of an all-in.
It's one of the only ways we can deny the third without the risk of getting caught and losing our whole army, as well as the only way to gain any map control with a fast expansion. Opening Stargate wasn't the problem here, it was that he continued to make units when he should have just made the one void ray and like 4 or 5 phoenix and then focused purely on ground army.
That's exactly what he did.
No it's not, he made more Phoenix when they weren't really effective, and then went for a quick switch into Colossus while remaining Zealot heavy, a huge tech investment hoping that the Zerg would be caught off guard by the Colossus switch, which was bad. Stargate is relatively standard PvZ nowadays, practically every progamer does it.
장민철이 불사조 너무 많이 만들고 테크에도 비용 투자 많이 했는데 전혀 효과가 없었음. 병력 뽑는데 집중했어야지.
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On September 07 2011 18:31 Jehct wrote:
MC had a huge window where he could have taken a third right after the second colossus popped; simple bad timings by him there =/ I don't understand how tosses miss expansion timings with obs out (though Losira made an overseer... eventually).
장민철 확장 타이밍 있었는데 그냥 흘려보냈음. 거신 2마리 나왔을때 먹었으면 되지 왜 확장 타이밍 못잡고 빌빌거렸지. 이해 안됨.
Corwintt Bulgaria. September 07 2011 18:36. Posts 43 PM Profile Quote #
yeah internet communities are so cool, it is awesome when gold - diamond players so easy can flame two time GSL champion and best protoss in the world.
인터넷은 정말 멋진 곳이야. 골드-다이야 플레이어들이 GSL 2차례 챔피언이자 최고의 토스인 장민철에게 못했다고 떠벌리는 거 보면.
sleepingdog Austria. September 07 2011 18:37. Posts 5185 PM Profile Quote #
On September 07 2011 18:34 darkness wrote:
Since balance whining is forbidden, I wanna ask you one question:
Is there even ONE protoss in GSL that does well *consistently*?
Even though I'm a diehard biased protoss - there isn't even one TERRAN that does well consistently. Let's not forget about MVP's drop to code A, and MC isn't even there yet.
내가 프징징이라도, 테란도 꾸준한 적이 없었는데? 토스가 안 꾸준하다고 징징대지 말자. (이런 변신수)
마지막은 개그 반응으로...
IntoTheSnow Singapore. September 07 2011 18:37. Posts 31 PM Profile Quote #
Terrible play from MC. If he continues like this he dont deserve code S.
Problems:
1. Why no anti-air?
2. Why not take the middle with blink stalkers/cannon?
3. Why the hell did u make pure zealots vs roach/hydra? You dont want to micro?....
4. Why make stargate units and not deny the third from going up? Theres no creep to third yet when he was harrassing with phoenixes. Whats the point of making phoenix if u dont want to control anything?.......
If MC keeps this up, he should go back to code A and grind his way back up which would actually benefit him more as a progamer. If you are fan of MC, I think code A is better for him now.
장민철이 썩어빠진 플레이를 했네. 이따위로 하면 코드S 못가는 건 당연하지.
1. 왜 타락귀 잡을 대공 유닛 안뽑음?
2. 왜 중앙에 캐논 도배하고 점멸 추적자로 센터 장악 안함?
3. 왜 바퀴/히드라 상대로 광전사를 뽑음? 컨트롤 하기 싫은가벼?
4. 왜 우주관문 올리고 저그의 2확장 저지 않함/ 크립 없었는데 그냥 깨버리지?
장민철이 이따위로 계속하면, 그냥 코드 A로 떨어져서 연습이나 하고 돌아오는게 나음. 니가 장민철 팬이면, 차라리 코드 A로 가는게 더 좋다는 걸 깨달아야 해.
돌겜
오버
히오스
디아3
